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  Why do people "come back"?

  by kairos in

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  i know of several examples of ones that "left the truth" for up to 20 years, only to suffer through the reinstatement process and feel like they are finally back on track.. how does this happen?.

  i personally know of one example where a father of three, leaves jws, abandons wife and family, lives as a gay man then comes back 20 years later as a partaking member of the anointed..

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  never a jw

  You offered the answer. Partakes?... He is mentally unstable, the Watchtower would say, and I would echo that.
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  With two questions, i recieved two lies from some cart witnesses.

  by brandnew in

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  today i walked up to a group of cart witnesses and picked up a watchtower.

  i opened the watchtower up to the first page , and asked one of the witnesses if he had read it.. lie # 1... he said he read it.. i ask my second question to a woman witness sitting next to him , who by the way was hard to tear away from her cell phone..... "whats this watchtower about?

  , "........ lie # 2 ... she said she read it , but forgot "exactly" what the main points were about..

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  Brandnew,

  I lean strongly towards believing that the two JW's had not read the whole magazines, at least with a strong interest, but I still believe you don't offer much in terms of proving your statements.

  "... stumped?" ... Can you offer any details surrounding this assessment?

  "forgot exactly?"... Not a bad answer. Even if someone reads something thoroughly and pays attention to detail, it's practically impossible to remember exactly. Did you pursue the issue any further, or you just judge others as the governing body does, with no solid basis and allowing preconceived ideas to bias your judgment. Calling someone a liar is a strong statement.
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  Nightline program with segment on JWs has been changed until tomorrow night.

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  2. beliefs

  i was at a criminal trial all day in murfreesboro, tn, involving the notorious jw who i call "mommy molester," angela montgomery.

  this is the reason i didn't know until this evening that the nightline program with the segment on jws was changed until tomorrow night.

  (i forgot my phone.

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  never a jw

  Nathan,

  I can see you got a Ph.D. in Psychology. Well done! Quite likely you have served as a high ranking diplomat too.
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  With two questions, i recieved two lies from some cart witnesses.

  by brandnew in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  today i walked up to a group of cart witnesses and picked up a watchtower.

  i opened the watchtower up to the first page , and asked one of the witnesses if he had read it.. lie # 1... he said he read it.. i ask my second question to a woman witness sitting next to him , who by the way was hard to tear away from her cell phone..... "whats this watchtower about?

  , "........ lie # 2 ... she said she read it , but forgot "exactly" what the main points were about..

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  never a jw

  How did you prove they were lying, especially #1? Do you have something better than "I say so".
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  Cheers to all! I'm in the house now! Finally signed up.

  by Lifeisfun in

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  hi readers and lurkers, .

  i decided it was time to register to the site.

  after all these years, it was just a matter of time.

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  never a jw

  Welcome,

  I am not a JW, but have lots of friends and family in (daughter and wife included). Ever since finding TTATT I feel like I am going crazy too, especially after seeing the state of denial of JW's when they are confronted with the idea of having been lied to by the WT. Anyways, I am a 50 y.o. male from Burbank CA. Send me a PM if you live near the area and want to meet a friend of the apostates.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses Crime Map

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  2. scandals

  crimes committed by jehovahs witnesseshttp://aawa.co/jw-crime-map/.

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  never a jw

  talesin,

  Actually, just about any other religious group claims in an implicit, subtle or deliberate way that its members are the chosen ones.
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  Anybody know what happened in this lawsuit, Frank Otuo suing the WT of Britain and an elder for defamation?

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  2. scandals

  this lawsuit was discussed on jwn five months ago: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/284881/brave-ex-elder-sues-over-defamation-over-fraud-claims?size=20&page=2 .

  anybody know what the present disposition is in this case?.

  the following link is to the actual newspaper article: .

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  never a jw

  Has anyone thought of a class action lawsuit against the watchtower regarding their shunning policies? If Olin Moyle won, why wouldn't it happen again?
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  A couple questions for atheists on Suffering

  by little_Socrates in

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  who told you that the world should be free from suffering?.

  do you find any value in suffering?.

  do you think it is possible to experience all the beauty and goodness and pleasure the world offers without also experiencing the bad?

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  never a jw

  Suffering is part and parcel of advanced forms of life, who are subject to the inexorable transformation of the universe around us according to the physical laws that regulate it. Tsunamis, earthquakes, flooding, drowning, cancer, etcetera are subject to those laws and the only thing humans can do is to learn how those laws work to use them to their advantage and reduce suffering. It seems suffering is here to stay for as long as there is sentient organisms. The only way God can rid us of suffering is to kill us all. If I read the bible right, this capricious character may end suffering soon (remember Noah's ark).
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  A couple questions for atheists on Suffering

  by little_Socrates in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  who told you that the world should be free from suffering?.

  do you find any value in suffering?.

  do you think it is possible to experience all the beauty and goodness and pleasure the world offers without also experiencing the bad?

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  never a jw

  Ruby,

  I join Cofty and Viviane.

  I, however, never read much about mother Teresa, so I don't know if she is in a league with you. I wouldn't be surprised.

  You know what, on a second thought, I think cofty was too nice. What you wrote is pure non sense.
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  A couple questions for atheists on Suffering

  by little_Socrates in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  who told you that the world should be free from suffering?.

  do you find any value in suffering?.

  do you think it is possible to experience all the beauty and goodness and pleasure the world offers without also experiencing the bad?

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  never a jw

  Regarding the OP question.

  Suffering, deep suffering, is to know that a large percentage (40 to 50% or something like that) of the U.S. population in the XXI century still believe in the literal interpretation of the creation account. My 29 year old nephew just wrote in an email : "this complex eco system we live in and the awesome universe our planet is in, it just does not seem logical to have come from evolution"

  What's going on? It's so painful. I need words of consolation. I need someone to tell me that this superstitious age is going to end soon. I need help.